Test driving, and the wedding of fornication.

(I got the title from a comment a friend made while discussing the issue below):
We started our talk…that down the isle with a protuding tummy is now the fad and the next-big thing in the world of brides and bride-grooms, as far as the Nigerian marriage scene is concerned.

The truth is i’m is fed up with the sights and sounds. In fact, im tired. Its now more like a celebration of I-don’t-know-what-to-call-it-anymore. In fact, I have refused to attend the last 4-weddings for which I had received invitations, just because I knew / had information that an unborn child was to be part of the marriage ceremony.

See, I grew up with the orientation that ‘uneducated, cheap, and street girls’ are the ones who usually end up pregnant-on-the-isle, on their wedding day: girls who didn’t have values; girls without good home-training or who had become wayward; girls with no standard, no self-control; “girls who didn’t know where they are going” – as my mother would say.

I viewed guys involved in such affairs as being tied down and forced into the marriage, because of the work of their hands – the pregnant lady. I always thought: ‘what another big mistake’. I viewed the pregnant girls as just saying ‘I do’ because they had no other choice, they had gotten themselves into what they couldn’t get themselves out of. It was more like everybody on the wedding day knew that the couple were getting married just to cover-up what was so visible – the result of their fornication.

I remember the days of ‘Bible Knowledge (BK)’ classes in Secondary school. I remember my teacher, talking of ‘values’. I remember her telling the girls in my class that their husbands won’t respect them(wives) especially if they weren’t ‘pure’ before their marriage. Even though I didn’t have it all cleared out then, I just knew it was all wrong-preggy on the wedding day.

Now, the tables are turned, the ball is on the other court, its another story. Like a friend of mine called it the other day: test driving, and the wedding of fornication. I completely agree.

A topic on the radio last weekend(28th july) brought back these thoughts again. The commentator mentioned something quite new to me, she said that there are now some ‘New Generation churches and Mosques’ in Nigeria who don’t marry couples except the bride is visibly pregnant’. I was like…what da!!!! Talk about ‘New generation Mosques’, I don’t know much about the Muslim faith, so let them be, but I wonder which kind of Bible these ‘New Generation churches’ are reading. I would really like to know details of such churches doctrines, and where they got their ‘Jesus’ from.

Another of the commentators mentioned ‘present-day cases’ he knew about where families of the groom demand from the bride that she get pregnant before marrying their son. According to them(groom’s family), they wanted to be sure if the lady was fertile or not. I wonder if such cases could also be vice-versa…..as in the family of the bride making the demand from the family of the groom. Won’t this would be another interesting dimension?

Yes, I know that such a cultural practice isn’t knew in Africa, but I’ve always thought the practice was dying off as education, civilization, awareness etc., are increasing, and people are getting enlightened. Besides, these are the days of computer and GSM.

I just find it sickening that a lady will agree to such a demand: have sex with her ‘to be’ because father-in-law(to be) said so? I ask myself: who is she marrying? – her father-in-law or his son?, and how will the father-in-law be informed that the sex is over? – she’ll say?: ‘yes daddy, your son and I had sex last night’? or? he’ll say: ‘daddy, we slept together her last night, what do we do next?’, then the groom’s father will say to her: ok, whether you have had sex or not, I can only verify when I see her bulging stomach….then both guy and gal go into mode ‘wait-for-the-bulging-stomach’.

At this point, is she(awaiting pregnancy lady) a girl-friend, fiance, half-wife, or wife? Fine, lets just call her a ‘bride’ for the purpose of this discussion.

My question is:
- what if theres a miscarriage after the bulging stomach and before the wedding? would the bride allow, approve of and be made to agree to another ‘test-drive’, perhaps the groom didn’t know how to do it right the first time?

- what if theres a miscarriage even after the wedding or the child is born and it dies? and bride doesn’t get pregnant again? who will be blamed? daddy-in-law or husband.

- what if the marriage goes on, and the lady dies at child-birth? will the father-in-law assume a comforting ‘position’? and what of the next lady his son is interested in, would the same demands entertained all-over?

- what if the lady doesn’t even get pregnant, after one, two, three ‘test-driving’ attempts?

Considering the Nigerian/African ‘marriage and no-pregnancy/child-birth’ dilema, the lady(bride or wife or whatever) is always on the loosing end? Now, what of when both are just ‘test-driving’, who will tell who to go for a medical test(for the sake of Love?)? – groom family or bride family?

Would the groom wait or will he test-drive again and again until she gets pregnant? If she still doesn’t get pregnant, can the guy ‘move-on’? if he goes for another fish in the water and ‘test-drives again’, won’t the first lady feel used abused and dumped? what if its the guy who has medical issues? who has the louder voice? – groom’s family or bride’s family? can a new guy develop interest in her and be allowed to test-drive from scratch, all-over? with the daddy-of-the-bride agree? me thinks, shes becoming a prostitute.

- should the lady(bride) get pregnant and the marriage concluded, what is the guarantee that the marriage would last anyway?, considering that the major requirement ‘love’ was not allowed to have its way.

- what if during the pregnancy and the guy calls it quits? who looses?

I wonder if such brides think of the above before giving a go ahead.

I’m talking about preserving the purity of marriage. When did pregnancy/children became the test of a lasting and blissful marriage? when did pregnancy become the definition of Love between husband and wife? Correct me if im wrong, but as much as children are important for the marriage and for the nation, marriage is ‘the’ institution between husband and wife alone, recognized by God and the Nation. I believe that the husband is meant for his wife and the wife, for her husband. Kids or no kids, marriage is between husband and wife. A child/children are only a result of love-and-enjoyment between married couples. Besides, armed robbers, arial boys etc., have parents and if children were a guarantee that things would be all-right at home, these peeps shouldn’t be on the streets.

Kindly note that my specifics is about the parents insisting that there must be a pregnancy before the marriage. This is quite different from those boys and girls who got ‘carried away’ in their lustfullness, and just wanted to ‘save their faces’ at the altar. My grouch is with the Christian assemblies/Pastors, Mosques/Immams that have brought such error into their congregations. I believe such clerics are contributing to the moral decay in the society.

let me stray a little: I know a couple in Abuja, and my mouth was aghast the day I heard they had no kids. I had known them for 2-years. I had always thought they had grown up kids, that maybe the younger ones were in secondary school(boarding house) somewhere. These were the sweetest couple I had seen in years. Always happy and jolly, their ‘closeness’ was extra-visible. There was no how both could stand together without the woman adjusting something in her husbands clothes, looking him from head to toe, wiping his face with a hanky, and the husband was all over her, holding her hands/covering hers with his, his arms always around her waist, here and there. This is one Nigerian couple i’ve seen to kiss in public. The 48-year old man could hardly say 2-sentences without ‘my wife’, neither could the 43-year old wife say something without referring to her husband. They couldn’t take decisions without each others consent, these guys were obviously sweet and always ‘in-love’ was in no doubt. Visiting them a couple of times, I was more-than surprised.

back to my talk: as much as I believe parents should be involved in the marital affairs of their children, I do not support such extra-terrestial ‘pregnancy-before-wedding/marriage’ family demands – if we assume all pregnant-on-the-isle cases are because of such demands. Definitely not.

Considering that a couple will later in life be left alone(by the time kids are all grown and settled), the more important it is that they know each other well-enough apart from their children, even and especially before the children start coming.

Worse, it really breaks my heart when I hear of educated women(especially those who finished University) agreeing to such demands. I sometimes wonder what their education really achieved. I thought that such(brides) should be able to educate their parents, as well, the groom educate his own parents. Our forefathers who didn’t know much didn’t test-drive here and there before hitting the spot. They had a house-full of kids, and even in some polygamous scenarios, there was love and happiness. How much more in the present day.

A week ago, I put the above scenario to a lady who jumped in on a conversation I was having on this issue. I asked her what she would do if shes in such a fix(agree to get pregnant as a requirement, before marriage). She thinks for 3minutes and says: hhhmmmm, ‘it depends’. Note: this lady is a young-professional in her own field.

So here, to the ladies of the nigerian blogsphere, assuming you are in the same fix(agree/not to get pregnant as a requirement, before marriage), would you have the same ‘it depends’ answer? what if it was your daughter?

Guys, what would you make of the above? if your parents make such a demand, would you agree? what if it was your daughter? Yes / No.

Between the ‘practical-fertility-testing’, if we assume that medical doctors give ‘theoretical-results’, is there any other advantage to this practice?

43 Responses “Test driving, and the wedding of fornication.” →
  1. There is no “depend” answer for me….It is NO.
    Come to think of it, if the man I’m supposed to be marrying doesn’t see anything wrong with that either, then I guess he’s not the one for me.

  2. Offtopic,
    Linked the post on the NDS blog, but for some funny reason, it isn’t showing up yet (Don’t know wassup with blogger).

  3. the absurdity of the practise is not to be understated, however to my mind it is not much different, and only then in degree from refusing to marry someone solely because your parents object. And most people i know think that that decision is perfectly acceptable.

    I agree with that girl, it depends on what people are willing to accept. They are all adults and if no one is being coerced then… I mean, i still think they’re all mad, but that’s that their lookout.

  4. @nilla,

    thanks. The link(from NDS to here) is working. It worked the first time I tried it.

    @snazzy,
    hhmmm, but should people be living their lives based on what others have to say? or what other people have to accept? – even in adulthood.

    I just think if something I was concerned about were to ‘depend’ at all, in the first place, it was supposed to depend on me – or the people concerned, not because someone else said so, and it shouldn’t matter what the relationship ties are.

    thanks guys for dropping by.


  5. waffarian

    August 4, 2007

    your observation is spot on! I have seen friends of mine, so called educated young women, graduated from top class universities all over the world…. become so desperate that they get into the most absurd situations when it concerns marraige. First of all, let us get to the heart of the matter! Why are we still, in this day and age, so obsessed with marraige? The society in Nigeria is still very patriachal and gives women the horrible notion that we are worthless without a husband. Most churches encourage us to get married, everywhere, there are “seminars” for single women, our magazines are filled with stories of how to get a man, and ofcourse, lets not forget the biggest bullshit of them all, “nollywood”!Even if a woman is well educated and knows better, the pressure from society is sometimes too overwhelming. I think untill women change their attitudes towards marraige, such nonsense and ridiculous notions will continue to prevail in our society.

  6. exactly waffy,

    thanks. See, if a guy goes to school and gets a good job, when it comes to marriage, ppl will say ‘cool down, think hard, you are educated, you have value, don’t rush, take your time or else you’ll make a decision that might ruin your life’.

    What educated gals will hear is ‘if he says he likes you, say yes’. They don’t even ask ‘do you like him’. More: ‘be fast, don’t waste time, take a decision now and round up the issue of a husband’ or your life will be ruined’.

    I just thought it should be the other way around, considering that in most failed marriages today(and more are failing on the hour), the woman/mother/wife gets to bear the brunch of the split. I’ve found out that most women don’t think of this.

  7. @mypenmypaper – Intresting!!! hmmm…I really want to know what version of bible these ‘new generation’ churches are reading…..its funny, but ‘love’ seems to be the last thing anyone thinks about now…..like a friend of mine said, the favourite line…”what car do you drive?” is now repackaged as “what is your vision?”…..pheww! Lord, help us!

    Nice article and the fact that it’s coming from a guy’s point of view makes it rather intresting!!
    Keep writing and i’ll keep visiting.
    tk care

  8. @adeola :)
    Thanks for dropping by. Yes o, ‘love’ has been redefined as far as ‘new generation’ is concerned. The lingo has now changed. Old things have passed away, all things have become new, and everyone is trying to be more ‘current’ than the other.
    yup, thats the lingo….ex:
    q: whats your vision
    ans: toyota camry
    q: what level
    ans: 2007

  9. I’ve heard of such cases. The women who agree to such arrangements are either ignorant or desperate to find a man. For me its an unquestanionable no.

    However I must say contrary to what the new generation religious instutions are practicing what I’m hearing is a reluctance of churches to marry couples that are already pregnant. In fact one such church caused a controversy in Abuja recently that the wedding resulted in a riot. I’ve never heard of mosques insisting on it as a precondition to marriage either. If it happens it must be in those backwater towns. And for the record it is against the tenets of Islam.

    For some people culture supercedes religion and Nigeria is no exception. I know married men who openly cheat in their wives. I was shocked! Believing that they were God fearing. But to them both are mutually exclusive; they believe in God but see nothing wrong in adultery.

  10. its been ages since this article was written but i couldnt help but respond to it after reading it about five minutes ago. its awesome to know, just like many other peeps have said, that at this time and age of revelation and enlightenment, that people(both men n women alike), would subject themselves to such degrading notion. like someone rightly said in one of the above post, the patriachal, masogynous society we call nigeria, boxes up the feminine gender, irrespective of how accomplished she is and classifies her as two words: Wife and Mother. not every body would have a child, neither would every soul get married. so why cnat we just go back to teh true tenets of teh institution of marraige and enjoy its outcome instead of been so hypocritical about it and coaxing teh family into unthinkable turmoil and dysfunction.
    in answer to the original question, its a NO bRAINER FOR ME. we court we marry and if GOD says we should have kids, then so be it.

  11. Hmm,
    mypenmypaper you are right and also wrong. You need to look at these issues dispassionately before you throw the hammer so hard. I disagree with waffarian. Yes a woman is not any less a woman when she is unmarried, but she does feel less so? This is the truth and it is part of a woman’s biological makeup to have that nesting instinct. Another thing is that quite a few people do not like the thought of being alone and they would like to spend their life with someone it is the strongest instinct every human being has and this is what drives the desire for marriage. The problem we are facing is that there are too many hurdles to getting married that are unnecessary. These things put so much more pressure on couples that at the end of the day before you know it these babies drop. There are very few couples that do not have sex before marriage only the ones that were careless with contraception end up having babies before getting married. Also remember it is also dangerous for women to give birth to children late. By the time a woman finishes her first degree a masters and probably if she likes academia a PhD she might be on the other side of 30 then the fear of not having kids or being alone sets in. I don’t think we should turn up our noses in the air to ignore all these things and blame women again that now that they have what they want they are wrong? I am not trying to excuse fornication here my point is that we need to make things easier for sincere people not more difficult. Why should a man have all these material things before he gets marries? Why should women really have to wait so long? Why is courtship so long and difficult? Is sex a bad thing ,after all it is not like you are marrying your sister or brother? Those things will go a long way in helping people to stay straight and safe

  12. hello Muyiwa,

    thanks for the long one, and yes, you do have a lotta points.
    anyways:
    a) “there are very few couples that do not have sex before marriage only the ones that were careless with contraception end up having babies before getting married”

    - pardon me, but yes, and thats the ‘fornication’ I was talking about…and most times, the ‘marriage’ kinda serves just to cover things up.

    see, my take on this is that: if two people(matured) love each other, why continue to shag up in secret for 1,2,3 years hoping that ‘a baby won’t follow”. Men of today throw off their ‘best seed’ in the toilet as they dispose their used condoms. Thats why the ones that are ‘legally born’ later on are of no use. The original and first fruits have been flushed down the toilet. It would be best for me that such get married, and shag up formally and legally. Now, if the two of them decide not to have kids until they are 40-years of age, fine, thats their decision, but at least the sex is legal.

    b) “By the time a woman finishes her first degree a masters and probably if she likes academia a PhD she might be on the other side of 30 then the fear of not having kids or being alone sets in”

    - a lady who finds herself the right man at an early age need not have to have a PhD before getting married. With the right man behind her, she’ll breeze through school in no time.

    BTW, this brings up an all important question/perception: why is it that for the ladies, they are expected(generally/socially) to have been done with studies/acada before getting married/even attempting to, while for the guys, it doesn’t really matter. Sorry to add: if such is the case, why is the man still the head of the family – I thought both husband and wife should be progressive in nature(p.s – ive come across a lotta women/girls who go like……after I get married, no more acada).

    c) “Why should a man have all these material things before he gets marries? Why should women really have to wait so long? Why is courtship so long and difficult?”

    - thanks for these questions. Yes, perhaps, I might try to find some answers in future posts.

    and lastly:
    d)”Is sex a bad thing ,after all it is not like you are marrying your sister or brother?”

    - Sex is not a bad thing. Sex is good and very needful for a healthy body, but see:
    … a husband and wife/s have sex
    … a married man and a single lady have sex…and vice versa
    … unmarried men/women have sex
    … a prostitute and his/her client also have sex
    … children of nowadays even have sex

    fine, so everybody has ‘sex’, but sex in the above points is not definitely the same.

    A spade has to be called a spade – at least, sometimes.

  13. I apologize for the Colonial mentality mabinu!
    I agree to all your points , I am not in anyway trying to downplay the fact that it is fornication. What I am really trying to say is that we have put a lot of unnecessary constraints on ourselves to the point that we put ourselves under such emotional pressure that we end up caving in. Back in the days of our parents we did not conjure up all these goals about success and education and courtship did not last more than a year. Since it seems we are so “dishonest” and unworthy of trust these days that it takes too long, then we become impatient, and then make mistakes of these things. A friend of mine put it in another context is it God’s will for me by 30 to be unmarried and not be having sex? By that age most of our parents had already one child or the other. I guess a lot of reeducation needs to be done . We need to teach our daughters how to find good men by being good men and fathers ourselves, same for women and mothers. Also four our sons to help them and teach them not to be driven by their basest desires after all it takes two to tango, pregnancy no they appear like that otherwise the woman go get title of “Virgin Mary”. Friendships are also crucial. My point is that because of biology it seems its the woman that is always blamed and has the most to lose. The reason I am saying this is the problem that most women will say early enough that most guys are not responsible for example that women mature faster than women. Personally, I believe this is not true. Since a guy knows he can have kids later and that well according to the dictates of society he does not have to bear any responsibility and that the women won’t consider him anyway it becomes a self fulfilling prophecy.

    This is the short version:). I think we need to just go back to God and honestly redefine our concepts. As it seems to me that all this abuse is related to being confused as to how we really should view and treat each other.

  14. Hi,

    I’m curious what the exact issue is here. Is it the sex before marriage or being pregnant before the wedding? I agree with all the points raised but this raises another issue. The deed has been done and the couple is pregnant after having sex…marry or abort, which?

  15. My aim for the post is actually to put forth the speed at which values are lost nowadays. Everything is the issue, Marian. Sex before marriage. Let me compromise a lil bit and say protection-less sex; being pregnant before the wedding – and the fact that our society of today has put on some dark-shades and see nothing wrong with it. Besides, ‘religious faiths’ seem to sanction it nowadays – which wasn’t so before. In fact, one doesnt have to be religious (in the olden days) to know what was right or wrong.

    Ok, the deed has been done and the deed is still been done as I speak. The couple(the lady actually) is pregnant before and during the wedding day. On most cases, that is not what she really wants, but she has to ‘accept what is at hand’ because of the child, at least to save her own face/family name – anyway she has no choice, now, does she?

    Assuming that child support is existent in the Nigerian environ, and can be enforced, its not the case either. In fact, “guys won’t mind paying child-support as long as the Child is not living with him(guy).” In any case, she better accept or the guy walks free. When things clear out a bit, she now realizes that a mistake has been made but this time, its for life. If her hubby maltreats her, who can she run to? anyway, she got into the wrong bus with her eyes open.

    Worse is that she’s educated/rather claims to have an education. If things like this continue to happen, how can she define women-empowerment.

    Abortion is not the way, but marriage is not the default solution either. Thank God, at least the guy agreed to get married – that one is by force. What if he doesn’t. Who bears the fire? Now, we call such a union a family? where they did it freely and married by force?

  16. Nice topic. Here is my two cents.

    1) Call it fornication but sex before marriage is alive and well and not everybody thinks its a bad thing. Indeed, in my view, bringing religion to it only leads to more hipocrisy.

    2) When you make omelet, you break eggs. It is hypocrisy to now say that because the egg was broken, you will not eat omelet in penitence. That is what churches are telling me when they insist they will not wed pregnant brides. If Mary was a nigerian, What Would Joseph Do? (WWJD)

    3) Testing for fertility before tying the knot is also nothing new. Simple mathematic of subracting our parents wedding date from the birthdate of your eldest sibling of some of us will prove that. And the world did not end.

    4) Sometimes there are more that two sides to an issue; the prewedding baby can be because (a) The lady wanted to tie the guy down (b) The guy wanted to be sure before tying the knots (c) It was a love child!They didnt plan it but they plan to keep it.

    My worries is actual that people are forced to either have abortions to save face or the hapless lady is made to feel remorseful because she “sinned” .

  17. thanks kiibati,

    nice thought: “If Mary was a nigerian, What Would Joseph Do? (WWJD)”…ill post this one.

    - I really don’t know what Joseph would have done in the Nigerian context. But I think its worth thinking and writing about. Thanks
    ——————————-

    “3) Testing for fertility before tying the knot is also nothing new. Simple mathematic of subracting our parents wedding date from the birthdate of your eldest sibling of some of us will prove that…”

    You know what, i’ve done that mathematics before. More, I even asked them about it. And I’m happy to say that I gave and still give my own parents a pass mark.

    Yes, its true, the world did not end for those who didn’t make the passmark, but if we say they were not enlightened, we, in our days should be more enlightened – much more the ladies themselves.
    ———————————
    “4) Sometimes there are more that two sides to an issue; the prewedding baby can be because (a) The lady wanted to tie the guy down (b) The guy wanted to be sure before tying the knots (c) It was a love child!They didnt plan it but they plan to keep it.”

    exactly what im thinking:
    (a) the guy that agrees to be tied down gets tied down – but twill never be erased from his mind that he is ‘tied down’. Where is the love?. The one that bails out bails out, and the ball rests in the court of the lady. How about the ‘fatherly-role’ in the upbringing of a child. Then we talk delinquency.

    (b) and (c), – you have a point

  18. But Mary mother of Jesus was already far gone and God encouraged Joseph, who wanted to obey the “Law”.
    So what is the issue, if “our”Lord was concieved out of wedlock why won’t us his followers?Re-read 1st Corienthians 7. If you touch a virgin, you do that which is right ie marry her!

  19. @Che

    I dont get your points:
    - But Mary mother of Jesus was already far gone and God encouraged Joseph, who wanted to obey the “Law”.
    - So what is the issue, if “our”Lord was concieved out of wedlock why won’t us his followers

    question: was Jesus concieved out of wedlock or concieved by the Holy Ghost.

    If conceived ‘out of wedlock’, we are saying that Joseph is the biological father of Jesus, which is untrue. I stand with ‘concieved of the Holy Ghost’ according to the Bible, and Jesus alone has this distinction.

    whats your take on this one.

    I Corinthians 7 – meaning if a man has had ‘sexual intercourse’ with…………then marry her.


  20. Oluwaseun

    October 29, 2009

    I dont think this is happening in Nigeria. Haba!!! where did u get this?


  21. jeffery anwar

    November 2, 2009

    pls, the thought provoking topics, you present such as this and they way you present them are just too good and will be better ganished by more people if it is packaged as a television programme. so if you would’nt mind, lets hook up, as i am working on a television programme that will discuse real life issues as it efects us nigerians and give your ideas and writing skill a big boast.
    once again you are good.

  22. @Jefferey,
    thanks for your proposal sir, this will be very interesting. I’ll mail you.

  23. It’s part of the world’s depravity, where good is becoming bad & vice versa…. Most girls now can never publicly admit to being virgins, so why will they not continue to fall for such cheap pranks that men bring up?


  24. cassandra

    November 24, 2009

    To be honest with you all, total abstinence from sex before marriage is more exciting, rewarding and apppreciated. It adds zest to one’s marriage and the rewards thereof are many.

  25. Hmm, men for me sex b4 marriage YAY!!!! i am in full support, pregnancy b4 marriage never, tufiakwa. How dem take do am? The world has always been and forever will be , the only thing that makes life diversely interesting is our ability to be different, can u imagine a world in which all people didn’t have sex b4 marriage,then we wouldn”t even have this beautiful discussion thread with a pot pourri of Ideas. If u can keep urself b4 marriage pls do but if not pls do not. But funny enough naturally girls which I had planned marriage for I had this most natural urge not to touch them b4 marriage, even though things didnt work out, but it feels natural for me. But doesn’t mean I wont have sex with sm1 else I dnt feel like marrying. In summary do watever helps u sleep at night..


  26. Ibrahim Yakubu

    January 24, 2010

    Its mostly the Yoruba stock that make this[Lady getting pregnant] a prerequisite to marriage.

    It is wrong.

  27. it is wickedness on the side of the man as well as lack of integrity on the side of the lady to become pregnant before marriage. the gift of god add no sorrow and god is not the author of confusion. i stronglly say it is vrey very bad to be pregnant before marriage. the church were they bein wedded is the church of devil not of god because marriage is between two people not three or even four (incase of twins)

  28. a woman should not use herself to accept a man’s proposal for marriage rather allow god to convice the man. ladies are too in a hurry to have the world and the fulness thereof by giving what belongs to the kings to dog.when a man tests a woman the respect is no longer there even trust because the foundation is faulty. if a man meets a woman with flower the family is always a happy home because what dignifies a woman was found intact.

  29. I would like to say that pregnancy before marriage is not the wrong thing here. The wrong thing is SEX BEFORE MARRIAGE. They cannot be pregnancy without sex (except in IVF or other). Pregnancy is a consequence of sex & sex is what ought to be condemned. When you see a bride pregnant on her wedding day, dwell not on the pregnancy, but on the act that led to the pregnancy & condemn it. They have been stories of couples that had several abortions before wedding (in church), but because there is no pregnancy to show, they are pretending to be Saint Peter & Saint mary. Leave the pregnancy alone & condemn the sex before pregnancy. Thank you.


  30. Esther Chukwu

    March 31, 2010

    they all need the fear of God in their life and be self deciplined that is all

    cheers


  31. edward chike

    April 22, 2010

    After importing foreign cultures, we select those that suit our posturings then proceed to moralize. We are Africans. Our cultures allow us to marry more than one wife. I am married to one and will never marry another even if I become a widower now, and I know most cultures subscribe to no sex before marriage, but I will do that which I deem correct provided my wife-to-be approves and I am not committing a crime.

  32. ABSTINENCE,CHASTITY,PURITY ARE GOOD VIRTUES.ANYBODY WHO INDULGES IN SEX BEFORE MARRIAGE IS NOT ONLY DISOBEYING GOD BUT ALSO DEFILING HIS/HER BODY WHICH IS THE TEMPLE OF THE HOLY SPIRIT.PLS LET US TRY AND LIVE A RIGHTEOUS LIFE TO MAKE THIS MAN(JESUS CHRIST) WHO DIED ON THE CROSS OF CALVARY HAPPY FOR ONCE.”BE HOLY FOR I YOUR GOD IS HOLY”,SIN HAS RUINED THE BEAUTIFUL WORLD ,LET US RENEW IT WITH HOLINES.REMAIN BLESSED.

    Rosie.

  33. You bunch of crazy judges! Any of you that didn’t have sex before marriage should raise up their two hands. The problem is we know the right things to do and we can judge others by quoting all the relevant passages in the bible to stick the knife, but are we ourselves doers of His word?

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  35. lanre okanlawon

    April 23, 2011

    i don’t understand the rush for marriage, no woman in Nigeria should be put under pressure cos end of the day it’s her life.
    Then getting pregnant all of a sudden has become the norm in our society, when i want to marry she ain’t going to be pregnant, it’s not ideal or normal

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  37. samuel young

    August 23, 2012

    To me the idea/demand is very wrong but ya know attimes most couple dose it bcuz of bein’ fertile or not they just wanted tobe sure first befor hurpin into de marrage/weddin &to me i see dat as fear and ya know fear can make ya do somethin thats n’t in yar intetion hhmmmm!!!! so thats why its very important we don’t give a room to fear cuz wen ya start givin chance to fear da more ya get yarself into troble thanks

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